Why isnt Mercury turning to him or her? [p] Another couple attempted to work in cooperation on a difficult project that they were unable to complete. [p] There is one example of two people who met in a philosophy class, had a brief clash of hostility (Mercury N parallel Mars) and separated. They can maintain association at a certain level or at intermittent times. [p] In another example a man and wife both had trust funds from separate estates. There was an example of rape. However, we also have Moon Conjunct Mercury (orb 5'34) and Venus trine Sun (2'26), so might those aspects make up for it? Saturn needs to face his or her fears and consciously work on not clamping down on Moon, and Moon, instead of reacting defensively to Saturn, must also look to see whether Saturn does have a point, so to speak, and Moon can actually benefit from some of the more reasonable boundaries that Saturn seems to draw. Moon Conjunct Venus will never stop loving each other. Mercury seldom makes any effort beyond the natural exchange of circumstances. You feel that you can learn a lot from Saturns wisdom. Sun conjunct South Node (Ketu): Sun is the power.The person was in authority over you. Topic: Saturn conjunct Saturn in synastry: GirlMercury Knowflake . When the aspect between Mercury and Saturn is a flowing one (sextile or trine), your Saturn partner helps you to structure your thoughts, plan your life, and give form to your ideas. [p] A woman with the aspect to her son had frequent short periods of separation from him. With the wide variability of the sextile, these examples hold every possible expression of the planet's nature. Their relationship was primarily a clash of wills. Mercury forming a challenging aspect with Pluto is, well, a challenging connection and not exactly one to wish for. He and Pluto met in spontaneous devotion, and were blessed in their work together for humanity, in literature, art, and culture. The sexual exchange is highly satisfactory in itself, but we have few examples of enduring sexual relationship. [p] One woman married twice; both time she had Mercury opposition the man's Saturn. MERCURY TRINE MARSMercury desires some action or response from Mars. [p] In all the examples of Mercury conjunct Jupiter, both persons are in a period of growth, hope, and optimism. [p] In one example, a man's Mercury was square the Moon of both his sisters. Synastry:SunNorthNodeAspects There are varying degrees of friendship, often with a measure of hostility or disagreement involved. The Ascendant person may feel very cared for by the Saturn person. [p] Many times the aspect is constructive. At a certain time, the two will be drawn together easily and they have the chance to expand their energy together, in work, sex, social or athletic games, or business cooperation. Only in the case of multiple N parallels of several planets is the bond strong enough to withstand the pressures that tend to divide them. we do have other north parallels between us, so there's a stronger bond as rodden says, but there are those differences he mentions as well. [p] In some cases there is an intermittent long term association where the two occasionally expend their energy together but do not press any advantage to deeper relationship. [p] A marraige with this aspect maintained a cooperative level for many years until the deepest inner needs of the two began to conflict. The personal planet person feels like he or she has to constantly monitor what he or she does or says in the presence of the Saturn person. With repeated experiences in which the personal planet meets a critical or cold response from Saturn as a result of a spontaneous comment or action, the personal planet begins to censor himself or herself, and spontaneity is lost. With little or no effort Mercury can get what he wants from Mars, but without satisfaction to the depth of his passions. Negativity or criticism may dominate your communications from time to time. in a conflict of wanting his own reputation to get first notice. We usually find Saturn interaspects with personal planets in long-lasting relationships. [p] A priest with Mercury opposition the Pluto of a young woman worked with her in church groups and personally supported her through a period of reversing her aspirations to a courageous and noble decision. But the truth of the matter is, given the depth of the attachment to each other, there is much to gain from working on the intimacy issues described above. [p] In some cases Mercury overrated M.C. Assumptions! It implies an inexorable struggle of selfishness and problems. Natal Saturn Conjunct Neptune Saturn conjunct Neptune natal can make life very [] represents. It will also help them to navigate difficult aspects between them. [p] When the two put in a common responsibility toward their relationship, it was easily satisfactory. [p] In some cases Mercury's impartiality excluded Neptune, and there was no more than secret fantasies between them. MERCURY SQUARE MOONMercury is strongly drawn to respond to the mood or feeling of the Moon, but there is an incompatibility in their instinctive mental processes. [p] Mercury did not always choose to take the responsible step. In one case there was an insidious threat. [p] In a long term marriage, Mars had a slight stroke at this time. However, it may feel as though there is a communication barrier between the two of you. They had a communal voluntary cooperation in the construction of their business. This is just one of those mutual chemistry things that has to be forced to die. [p] After his death, the woman remarried. Synastry:SunJupiterAspects Most of them endure pleasantly and beneficially. There are few marriages in the examples. Square energy represents blocked energies in a synastry chart- and with this aspect, Saturn's cold and serious nature tends to be amplified. Synastry:Mars-MarsAspects Thus, a distance was created between them. [p] The deepest and finest of human relationships for the good of both can be directed to the good of mankind. They do have some of the characteristics described above, but generally there is less defensiveness between the two, and criticism is constructive if it exists. [p] In other cases, the bond of Mercury N parallel Mercury insured a life-long affinity, though the two people had such different lives and experiences that they rarely maintained enduring contact together. [p] The majority are family relationships, neighbors, people who lived together, or people who are brought together by a member of the household. i have a relationship with someone that could be described very much in that manner. As time passes, and especially once a commitment is made between each other, the personal planet person will inevitably grow in that area of life or part of the personality represented by the personal planet. Often there was a criticism or discredit between them. It's the closest aspect in our synastry. As time passed, she felt that whenever she found someone else funny or even something else funny, her partner came down on her in some way. [p] They may attain, or maintain a contact on a certain level. [p] Though the potential threat is there, the Mercury square M.C. She began to feel unnatural around him, restricted, like he rained on her parade. These people feel closely connected. Gemini [p] In one example, a woman with Mercury conjunct a man's Jupiter, paid 45000.00 to get him out of a legal bind at the time of this progression. For the most part Mercury has the greater abundance of some quality or condition. [p] A self-centered, cautious Mercury will coldly abandon Saturn to his own burden. When they were apart, she felt freer to be herself. [p] A point will be clarified here. Any personal experiences or knowledge of any kind is greatly appreciated! When the business was totally lost to creditors, Mercury's attitude was. Neptune does rule drugs, and in the examples where drugs are a distinguished part of the exchange between these two people, it will be mentioned. The finished product received little acclaim at the cost of a great deal of effort. [p] As the conjunction is neutral, Mercury can acknowledge Pluto impartially. Important Note: Personal planets overlaying the tenth house of a partners chart can express similarly, where the tenth house person takes on a Saturnine role to the personal planet person. Mercury may feel belittled or perhaps immature/illogical in Saturns presence, feeling as if Saturn is watching him/her too closely or is overly critical and fault-finding. [p] Where the two do not stimulate each other to conflict, they are nonetheless separated periodically by their sex or energy patterns, or by accident, injury or rejection. Your conversations may be on the dry or serious side at times, however. Mars was having an active sex life, being newly married. Pluto later countered with, "We will marry, or else I will cause a scandal." [p] There was one period during their marriage when they had a scandal. There is a certain time when the way is clear for the, to build a mature exchange. [p] A mother had Mercury square the Saturn of both her sons. This cross-aspect is a powerful one. we don't meet up very very often, but we see each other irregularly. In the beginning, there can be a real feeling of mutual respect regarding how each person uses his or her brain, how they communicate, and how they think. Mercury at some time has sparks fly, or rejects Mars. My Mercury in Leo is a 2nd house placement and his Saturn Pluto is 12th. [p] When Mercury has the highest aspirations he can build a constructive relationship for the general good. The man had Mercury square the woman's Pluto. The mother worried about his lack of frivolity or fun during his adolescence. There were hidden levels that the two were unable to exchange. The validity of what you communicate, concentration on syntax, and realism is emphasized. of her mother. Synastry:MoonMercuryAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Saturn fears anything that threatens the initial bond they formed and sees any signs of growth on Mercurys part as a threat to that bond. [p] The Mercury square Saturn is primarily a responsible, responsive exchange. [p] The examples include a warm friendship between a young Negro man and an older Caucasian woman, who met weekly for several years in a study class. Even as children, their everyday experiences took different patterns; their moods and temperament conflicted. Synastry:SunSaturnAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Libra [p] The longest example of a relationship was the most traumatic. The Sun conjunct Saturn transit will be a time of hard lessons and an awareness of the fears that cripple our potential. Saturn could have handled the job more efficiently than the other man. Synastry:VenusJupiterAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Their relationship is characterized by close cooperation not only in the intellectual and educational sphere but also in . The extent, depth and substance of the two personalities are unequal. [p] The progressions have the same type of affair, at a specific time. Moon may sense a certain level of seriousness and even harshness or narrowness in Saturn that may not even exist in absolute terms. They often worked in gorup activities for a common goal, in the army, as musicians and in their church group. They are accustomed to diverse environments and associations. People with this aspect tend to think alike. In truth, the bond is likely still there from the point of view of Mercury. Circumstances and environment are such that Mercury need make little effort to elicit a depth of exchange with Pluto for the common good of both. See our Romantic Compatibility Report, and other Compatibility reports. When Mercury has any possibility of dishonor, they are both in danger of public discredit. When the aspect between Mercury and Saturn is a flowing one ( sextile or trine ), your Saturn partner helps you to structure your thoughts, plan your life, and give form to your ideas. Mercury took the opportunity to eulogize his memory in idealistic terms. Saturn symbolises the structures in our lives such as career, stability, family and the 'old ways'. It must be emphasized here and now, that this aspect does not cause the violence. The two women expreienced in this way a similar domestic relationship and situation. There were secret love affairs that were ecstatic and erotic; and one case of secret abortion of a pregnancy. [p] Several love affairs had disastrous results. In fact, anything that happens outside of the relationship in the area represented by the personal planet can be seen as a threat to the exclusive bond the couple had at the beginning of the relationship. Nevertheless, even with flowing aspects involving Saturn, the chemistry is such that there is a characteristic reserve or self-consciousness present in the relationship with regards to the expression of feelings, romantic desires, will, intellect, or sexuality, depending on the personal planet involved. Mercury in Partners 1st house You will inspire easy communication with your partner. [p] Among the examples there is the cooperation between a dentist and patient. These aspects play out over time and often manifest in clear stages. The other man stayed in his peaceful world of marijuana and music. Both were in a period of inverting their former patterns, he in his work, she in her expressions of self will. In every case there is some period of tension or excitement. He would say things like, I really dont know why you find that so funny. As time passed, a dark cloud formed above the couple. Thanks. I'm hoping that when I stop or let go of this I have completed the karmic dance. [p] In one case a marriage dissolved because Mercury made no effort to sexually or socially reach agreement with his Mars wife. And that's just the conjunction. In these cases the two worked together with emotional and temporal benefit, that built a secure relationship. Posts: 4179From: Venus cornering NeptuneRegistered: Mar 2014, Posts: 396From: 8th houseRegistered: Mar 2014. Whether or not it was verbalized, the air of responsibility is explicit. These were ethical groups, musical groups, or work teams, etc. [p] One of the women was his mother. Karma is associated with Saturn, where the personal planet person feels some sort of personal debt to the Saturn person. If it is a romantic relationship, sex has an addictive quality. Mercury Square Pluto in Synastry. There are examples of antipathy as well as affinity, brief contact as well as endurance. Mercury suspected Pluto of infidelity. Synastry:Venus-VenusAspectsBetweenTwoCharts The most exact aspect in our charts is Mercury Square Saturn (he is Mercury, I am Saturn, the Orb is 0'09). MERCURY SQUARE PLUTOMercury is strongly drawn to coercion or cooperation with Pluto. Mercury objected to this, but his chance was gone and so was his girl. It was she who fired his full passion of devotion to the general good. When Mercury in your chart forms an aspect to your partners Saturn, form, logic, and reality are important elements in your communications. Synastry:SunSunAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Jupiter Conjunct Jupiter Synastry; Saturn Conjunct Saturn Synastry; Mars Conjunct Mars Synastry; Venus Conjunct Venus Synastry; Mercury Conjunct Mercury Synastry; Moon Conjunct Moon Synastry; Sun Conjunct Sun Synastry; Every Zodiac Cusp Sign And Dates, Cusp Zodiac Signs; Tarot Cards List, All Tarot Cards. [p] If there is any hostility or disappointment it is because one or the other cannot supply the demand for depth of passion. Mars conjunct South Node (North Node opposite Mars): Every interaction is bursting with passion and dynamic energy. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use. This time she took the Saturnine role of being older, hard working and responsible. This may be talent, intelligence or capability, or it may be in business, profession, prestige or wealth. Both persons had heights and depths that were incomprehensible to the other. Synastry:Mercury-PlutoAspects They parted in cold loathing of each other. [p] The progressions have examples of friendship on an intermittent basis of contact. [p] The Mercury N parallel Mercury progressions include several of the closest friendships between people of diverse backgrounds, where the contact was broken by one person moving away. An employee accompanied him to work while mother pursued her own enthusiasms. Planetary Positions Calculations/Report. A couple with Sun square Mercury synastry can have a strong tension between individual ego and the hustle bustle of communicating in the Mercurial city. Mercury may look to Saturn for advice, and Saturn responds with much enthusiasm, delighting in helping Mercury, and even teaching him or her. [p] When Mercury and Neptune maintain an integral aesthetic ideal there is little chance of scandal. They have Mercury to Uranus aspects, as it is often a radical departure from convention. Most Saturn placements in a synastry chart represent past life karma. He spontaneously arouses Mars' energy for work, social games, sex, athletic or business cooperation. The conjunction of Mercury and Saturn between charts can possess shades of both the challenging and flowing aspects mentioned above. [p] In an example of two friends, Mercury gave Mars a job that he handled so well it was beneficial to both. Taurus [p] The conjunction implies a certain objectivity to all the Mercury conjunction of planets except that of Mercury conjunct Moon. He understands or identifies from his own personal experience with Neptune's sensitive dream of the aesthetic ideal, or with his secret fantasy toward ease, ecstasy and the erotic sensations. Synastry:Venus-NeptuneAspects Synastry:VenuswithAscendantAspectsBetweenTwoCharts In three cases Mercury was injured, causing shock and effort to Mars. [p] When Mercury develops a contact based on coercion, the subsequent inversion will leave nothing of value. He can't embrace his unconscious issues and I'm worn out. Posts: 6 From: Australia Registered: May 2009: posted February 20, 2010 06:18 PM I've just realised that my Dad and I have this conjunction in Leo. [p] Often there is a full Neptunian expression in the contact. Although the relationship may begin with some element of enthusiasm, over time, Moon may feel the need to censor feelings of dependency on the relationship and on Saturn himself for some reason or another. [p] With the Mercury trine Mars aspect, the chance for a constructive relationshup comes so easily that Mercury seldom puts any more effort into the matter than circumstances call for. Synastry:Venus-NorthSouthNodeAspectsBetweenTwoCharts [p] In some examples, the two people clash in a mutual identification of hostility patterns. The positive manifestation of the Pluto conjunct Mercury synastry aspect is relating on a very deep, soul-transforming level. [p] The Mercury who takes undue advantage with no commensurate effort loses the benefit. As the relationship develops, however, difficulties in communicating can develop. From what I've gathered, Mercury feels childish in the presence of Saturn; the aspect basically leads to a lack of communication. Synastry:Venus-UranusAspectsBetweenTwoCharts There were several dynamic attractions, where Mercury began a love affair with Mars that lasted a shroter time than the progression. Mercury partner needs to gain Saturn's respect, and so tends to develop. The Mercury person can feel intimidated by the Saturn persons practicality. 79, Section 3, New Taipei Blvd., Xinzhuang District, New Taipei City, Taiwan, 242032 +886 2 8522 9980. [p] A five year old boy with Mercury conjunct his mother's Moon expressed this solicitude and understanding when he said, "Mom, you'd better go to bed early tonight so you're not in a bad mood tomorrow." also, two synastry aspects that I absolutely have distaste for are mars opposite pluto and venus opposite pluto. Pisces. The energy and desire patterns do not blend in full. There are obstacles to making their contact public, or else an incompatibility in their reputations. "Well, too bad," and he went on to other fields, leaving Saturn with a heavy financial loss. [p] The come together to share, or experience at the same time, a matter of abundance, optimism, or expansion. [p] When Mercury extends his integral high aspirations, there is a superior association. Ugh. [p] Mercury was a lusty, virile man, who understood well his Scorpio wife's erotic needs. The more Saturn aspects (especially ones with tight orbs) between two charts, the more those people will be compelled to stay together. [p] No energy can be negated; it must be directed into channels that are personally and socially acceptable. of his director. MERCURY CONJUNCT MOONMercury has an instinctive familiarity with the moods and feelings of the Moon. In these cases the contact remained formal, or was lost. Although parallels are likened to conjunctions, when Saturn is parallel a personal planet in synastry, the interplay is easier than the conjunction. Liz Greenes book about Saturn includes Saturn in synastry. Description of the conjunction aspect between the Sun and Saturn.This is about Synastry, not composite charts [p] There are long term marriages and friendships, shorter love affairs and business contacts. Synastry:Mercury-MarsAspects She and her husband went into a series of business ventures that made gain with effort and discipline. Saturn can feel mighty threatened by this simple experience. As usual, tighter the orb, the more intense. [p] The come together to share, or experience at the same time, a matter of abundance, optimism, or expansion. Where Mercury does have concern for the Moon's physical or mental health or welfare, there are obstacles to block his sympatico. In cooperation with her, Mercury developed his own hidden capacities, and found his firm direction. The second time this transit happens will be at age 56, and it is also significant because it marks the . Posts: 73 From: Chicago, IL USA Registered: Nov 2012: posted January 29, 2013 04:45 PM . This can take the form of criticizing the energies expressed by the personal planet person. They stayed together but the relationship itself disintegrated. that's all that means! Typically an aspect like this can signify a struggle to leave the past behind. Synastry:SunMarsAspects In an example of two men with Mercury conjunct Jupiter, both were important in their profession; Mercury had received world renown. In other examples, Mercury was drawn into the home environment of the Moon where there was some obstacle to overcome in time or distance, or in diversity of mood. [For those whose requested interps dont all appear under your username [if at all] its of course because theyve been previously requested by others so look on the previous pages.]. They were unable to change their pattern structure, and they separated. As the relationship comes so easily and naturally, Mercury is not always appreciative. When the events do not fall naturally into place, Mercury does not seem to care enough, or know how to make the appropriate effort at the opportune time. Though there was the rare criticism, the two never argued or parted in any emotion stronger than pique.