Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. Thanks all. I havent had a problem yet. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. containers. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Save Share. JavaScript is disabled. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. TITEGROUP - Hodgdon The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. Clear editor. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. You say that now. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined 9mm Luger (9x19, Parabellum) Load Data: Favorite Handloads She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I wonder why the difference. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup - Northeastshooters.com Forums Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. Warning! Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Makes 900fps out of my G17. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. I could manually measure amounts in the middle of the range, but I'd rather use the AutoDisk, which has cavities with volumes corresponding to the edges of the recommended range. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! This is safe, yes? This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. Load data for 147g coated bullet with titegroup - 9mm/38 Caliber Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Nuff said. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 2.8 gr. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. When we are sold out, we are sold out. 1.100 in. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. You can post now and register later. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. 9mm+P Loads? - 24hourcampfire 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads - Load Data Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Seen a few of those over the years. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. was 1146fps. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. TiteGroup fpr 9mm | Ruger Forum Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. Titegroup for 9mm? | Carolina Shooters Forum A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Upload or insert images from URL. 9mm 124gr - Max Loads for CFE, Titegroup, Power Pistol - AR-15 An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. Use the LRN and you will be good. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. JavaScript is disabled. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. 9mm Load Data - PowderThrough.com TiteGroup and loads - Bullseye Forum Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Nov 7, 2015. Really..so, how would someone measure that? In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Thanks guys. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. I consider the type of bullet. Your previous content has been restored. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. Your link has been automatically embedded. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. 9mm load for USPSA | Northeastshooters.com Forums with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Load Data - The Blue Bullets 115 gr xtreme load/col data? | Northeastshooters.com Forums The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. I am gonna give it a try. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Then work up from there. I dont think i would worry about it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. I found anything much lower to be too weak. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. . Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). Makes an impression on you. By This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Reloading Heavy Bullets in 9mm Luger - Shooting Times Need 9mm Titegroup 115gr JHP load data | Glock Talk The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. Appreciate the input. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. 3.4 gr. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Starting at mid range up to max. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. We will pass. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. containers. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Obligatory start low and work your way up A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder - 9mm/38 Caliber - Brian Enos's Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics.